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    New Forth replacement crossing.

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    Mcqueen
     
     

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    Re: New Forth replacement crossing.

    Post by Mcqueen on Fri 13 Oct 2017 - 17:36

    We have a new shopping centre and the highways did a traffic survey, Saturday is grid locked,
    Professional people get paid what ever, shambles innit
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    Re: New Forth replacement crossing.

    Post by Campbell Brodie on Fri 13 Oct 2017 - 17:48

    Well, they reckon this one will last over 100 years. The old one couldn't take all that traffic now, it wasn't designed or even anticipated that there would be such an increase in cars, lorries at 40 tons etc.



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    Re: New Forth replacement crossing.

    Post by Adam Mint on Fri 13 Oct 2017 - 18:04

    But that is exactly the problem, you plan for the future, would seem they haven't even planned for today...

    The new bridge has a hard shoulder, is it possible that to become a third lane, even then the merging of all the approach roads would still need sorting...

    How bad a state is the old bridge, are the problems fixable,,, if so, traffic heading north four lanes on new bridge, south four lanes on old bridge,,, and sort out approach roads so they work...

    Simples innit...
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    Re: New Forth replacement crossing.

    Post by Campbell Brodie on Fri 13 Oct 2017 - 18:08

    It's got a hard shoulder because in the next few months the road is going to be classed as a motorway, M90. Old bridge will stay as A90.



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    Re: New Forth replacement crossing.

    Post by Adam Mint on Fri 13 Oct 2017 - 18:30

    Yeh, but don't know if it's happened anywhere in Scotland yet but in England to ease congestion on certain sections of motorways they are using what was the hard shoulder as a lane, they call them "Smart Mororways", there are loads of overhead gantries with signs over each lane that say if lane is open open/closed, what speed limit is in any particular lane, etc, cameras are also mounted on these gantries so operators can see what's going on and control traffic if there's an accident or breakdown, so that hard shoulder on bridge could become one of them.
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    Re: New Forth replacement crossing.

    Post by Adam Mint on Mon 27 Nov 2017 - 17:38

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    Re: New Forth replacement crossing.

    Post by Campbell Brodie on Mon 27 Nov 2017 - 17:40

    Nah, it's to let them turn it into Motorway status. It's needed to allow the 70mph speeds.



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    Re: New Forth replacement crossing.

    Post by Adam Mint on Mon 27 Nov 2017 - 18:28

    Or to put it an other way, somebody screwed it up...
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    Re: New Forth replacement crossing.

    Post by Campbell Brodie on Mon 27 Nov 2017 - 18:38

    How do you get over the Forth if you're a tractor or learner driver when it gets made into a motorway?



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    Re: New Forth replacement crossing.

    Post by 3rdforum on Mon 27 Nov 2017 - 22:15

    on the old bridge?? or it that now closed to private vehicles?






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    Re: New Forth replacement crossing.

    Post by Adam Mint on Mon 27 Nov 2017 - 22:56

    Old bridge if I recall correct, buses, taxis, emergency vehicles, motorbikes, bicycles and pedestrians,,, oh and for the next few days all the traffic the new one can't handle...

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    Re: New Forth replacement crossing.

    Post by Adam Mint on Wed 29 Nov 2017 - 16:36


    Campbell Brodie wrote:Nah, it's to let them turn it into Motorway status. It's needed to allow the 70mph speeds.

    Adam Mint wrote:Or to put it an other way, somebody screwed it up...

    Somebody screwed it up...

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-42165899
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    Re: New Forth replacement crossing.

    Post by Campbell Brodie on Wed 29 Nov 2017 - 18:01

    Broke again innit...



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    Re: New Forth replacement crossing.

    Post by Campbell Brodie on Wed 29 Nov 2017 - 18:01

    They should build another bridge!



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    Re: New Forth replacement crossing.

    Post by Mcqueen on Wed 29 Nov 2017 - 18:07

    And get England to pay for it
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    Re: New Forth replacement crossing.

    Post by Campbell Brodie on Wed 29 Nov 2017 - 18:34

    Scotland paid for the last one...



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    Re: New Forth replacement crossing.

    Post by Mcqueen on Wed 29 Nov 2017 - 18:50

    I'd like to see the receipt 
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    Re: New Forth replacement crossing.

    Post by Adam Mint on Fri 20 Apr 2018 - 1:37

    So I take it the 70 mph speed limit ain't sorted it, oh, trucks that can use both lanes ain't allowed to do seventy,,, money down the tube, no forward thinking...

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-43824150
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    Re: New Forth replacement crossing.

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    Re: New Forth replacement crossing.

    Post by searcher on Fri 20 Apr 2018 - 15:12

    They could have used it for trams  
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    Re: New Forth replacement crossing.

    Post by Adam Mint on Fri 20 Apr 2018 - 15:30

    Read that story, found it a bit odd, filling it with polystyrene blocks so if they need to reopen the tunnel they can be removed,,, yet article says railway cuttings have been filled in either side of tunnel, plus it's a track to nowhere...

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    Re: New Forth replacement crossing.

    Post by Adam Mint on Fri 20 Apr 2018 - 15:31

    searcher wrote:They could have used it for trams  

    Yeah, a way of wasting more money...
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    Re: New Forth replacement crossing.

    Post by searcher on Fri 20 Apr 2018 - 18:05

    Adam Mint wrote:Read that story, found it a bit odd, filling it with polystyrene blocks so if they need to reopen the tunnel they can be removed,,, yet article says railway cuttings have been filled in either side of tunnel, plus it's a track to nowhere...

    Mushroom farm ???
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    Re: New Forth replacement crossing.

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    Re: New Forth replacement crossing.

    Post by Adam Mint on Mon 23 Apr 2018 - 23:58

    Posted this on this thread as its gonna be a lot of money spent which will not sort the problem...

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-43866570

    Used this junction 19 hundreds if not thousands of times, yip, bottleneck which brings traffic to a standstill, way to sort junction, flyovers, this 50 million bridge ain't gonna sort it, traffic is still gonna have to come to a stop at traffic lights,,, Fail...

    And the problem ain't this junction, it's the lack of one between the M6 and M56 a few miles up the road, that's where it needs sorting...

    Just saying, but watch this space...


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