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    angusjim
     
     

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    Re: Illegal lettings

    Post by angusjim on Sun 23 Jul 2017 - 10:59

    Gypsy wrote:Whether the Govt law is illegal or not, those who rented out their property and didn´t pay tax on it are crooks, especially those who then bragged about it. 
    Some would argue not any more crooked that the government 
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    Re: Illegal lettings

    Post by Adam Mint on Sun 23 Jul 2017 - 15:45

    angusjim wrote:So how will the 3 court rulings against the governments law on holiday lets in residential complexes pan out it now appears that its the government law that is illegal

    Lost touch with the illegal lettings issue, so what's the story now...

    Sites like Oweners Direct were full of private apartments to let at one time then all the owners removed them from the sites due to fines being dished out, giving whatever this new ruling is, will they start reappearing again...
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    Re: Illegal lettings

    Post by Gypsy on Sun 23 Jul 2017 - 21:47

    angusjim wrote:
    Gypsy wrote:Whether the Govt law is illegal or not, those who rented out their property and didn´t pay tax on it are crooks, especially those who then bragged about it. 
    Some would argue not any more crooked that the government 

    You think that makes it right.  A crook is a crook and those that think they are clever and support them knowingly are equally dishonest.
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    Re: Illegal lettings

    Post by angusjim on Mon 24 Jul 2017 - 18:53

    Gypsy wrote:
    angusjim wrote:
    Gypsy wrote:Whether the Govt law is illegal or not, those who rented out their property and didn´t pay tax on it are crooks, especially those who then bragged about it. 
    Some would argue not any more crooked that the government 

    You think that makes it right.  A crook is a crook and those that think they are clever and support them knowingly are equally dishonest.
    I have no way of knowing if my cousins pay the correct tax anymore than i would if i checked into a hotel, not my problem i am asked for money that i pay by credit card or direct into bank accounts. You never paid anyone in Tenerife cash for work carried out ?
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    Re: Illegal lettings

    Post by Gypsy on Mon 24 Jul 2017 - 20:27

    Not without an official invoice.
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    Re: Illegal lettings

    Post by angusjim on Mon 24 Jul 2017 - 20:47

    Gypsy wrote:Not without an official invoice.
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    Re: Illegal lettings

    Post by Gypsy on Mon 24 Jul 2017 - 21:12

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    Re: Illegal lettings

    Post by 3rdforum on Mon 24 Jul 2017 - 22:22

    Mother Theresa I think






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    Re: Illegal lettings

    Post by Adam Mint on Tue 25 Jul 2017 - 13:43

    For a minute there I thought I was on the "Who or what am I thread",,, your go Dermo for getting that one...
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    Re: Illegal lettings

    Post by Adam Mint on Tue 25 Jul 2017 - 14:41

    Adam Mint wrote:
    angusjim wrote:So how will the 3 court rulings against the governments law on holiday lets in residential complexes pan out it now appears that its the government law that is illegal

    Lost touch with the illegal lettings issue, so what's the story now...

    Sites like Oweners Direct were full of private apartments to let at one time then all the owners removed them from the sites due to fines being dished out, giving whatever this new ruling is, will they start reappearing again...

    Done a bit searching around,found this posted April this year by murph on the Tenerife Forums Illegal Lettings thread, it's a translation of court case...


    Basic Translation 

    The owners and managers of holiday homes have obtained a first victory in the battle that faces them to the Government of the Canary Islands and the hotel management. The High Court of Justice of the Canary Islands (TSJC) has annulled several articles of the decree that regulates this activity - approved in the final measures of the last legislature and which Parliament has urged to review - including the exclusion of houses located in areas Tourist, a prohibition that leaves out of the law about half of the real estate dedicated to the holiday rental.

    "The regulation clearly infringes the freedom of business and freedom to provide services, limiting the tourist offer without sufficient justification," the magistrates of the regional court, in line with the arguments put forward by the Spanish Federation of Associations of Housing for Tourist Use And Tourist Apartments (Fevitur) and the National Commission of Markets and Competition.

    According to the TSJC, "it does not make sense that the offer of holiday homes should be excluded from those areas where tourism should be located preferentially." Judges even venture into what motives may hide behind this measure. In his opinion, "the only plausible explanation for this cut-off is that this is to favor the supply of traditional tourist accommodation products", which are located mostly in these areas. The higher court concludes that, in this way, free competition in the provision of services is violated.

    The ruling questions the principle of separation of uses advocated by the Government and hotel entrepreneurs in remembering that tourist areas can be established on territories with residential uses. "The specialization of uses according to areas that try to promote the different laws in tourism is nothing more than an aspiration, but it is far from being a reality," said the magistrates.

    The article prohibiting the rental of rooms is also challenged. According to the TSJC, "there is no reason to require a client who only wants to hire a room to stay that assumes the cost of renting the entire home."

    The court annuls, finally, the obligation to the owners to wait a period of 15 days after formalizing the declaration responsible to start the activity.

    In contrast, the TSJC dismisses the challenge of the obligation to install a badge in the property and to have a minimum equipment, as well as the regulation of advertising and information.
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    Re: Illegal lettings

    Post by Adam Mint on Tue 25 Jul 2017 - 14:42

    Actuall searched that out for you Reg knowing you loved the thread so much...
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    Re: Illegal lettings

    Post by Mcqueen on Tue 25 Jul 2017 - 17:24

    I believe ex time share are a different ball game, spanner in the works
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    Re: Illegal lettings

    Post by Topdog on Tue 25 Jul 2017 - 18:15

    Never mind Ma Theresa, yer digging a big black hole avin a go at Gypsy.......never have and never would... 
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    Re: Illegal lettings

    Post by 3rdforum on Tue 25 Jul 2017 - 20:37

    True that but I'm still impressed I got it right. ( feckin smiley not working again)






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    Re: Illegal lettings

    Post by angusjim on Wed 26 Jul 2017 - 6:32

    Don't think I had a go at her just answered a couple of posts but if I have caused any offence by doing so, please accept my sincere apology
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    Re: Illegal lettings

    Post by Topdog on Wed 26 Jul 2017 - 16:47

    I was messing
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    Re: Illegal lettings

    Post by Adam Mint on Wed 26 Jul 2017 - 17:04

    angusjim wrote:Don't think I had a go at her just answered a couple of posts but if I have caused any offence by doing so, please accept my sincere apology

    Look mate, you jump sides from a sinking ship, arrive here, first few posts you've got people's blood boiling,,, brilliant...

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    Re: Illegal lettings

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    Re: Illegal lettings

    Post by Gypsy on Wed 26 Jul 2017 - 17:20

    Adam Mint wrote:
    angusjim wrote:Don't think I had a go at her just answered a couple of posts but if I have caused any offence by doing so, please accept my sincere apology

    Look mate, you jump sides from a sinking ship, arrive here, first few posts you've got people's blood boiling,,, 

    Always best to get to know peoples personalities before jumping in with comments that can be misconstrued. But nowt changes wasn´t the opening post about upsetting people on here.  Perhaps we should learn from our mistakes but at least for the time being apology accepted and lets start afresh.
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    Re: Illegal lettings

    Post by Adam Mint on Wed 26 Jul 2017 - 17:58

    One thinks one has been quoted out of context...

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    Re: Illegal lettings

    Post by Gypsy on Wed 26 Jul 2017 - 18:07

    Selective I would say 
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    Re: Illegal lettings

    Post by Adam Mint on Wed 26 Jul 2017 - 23:12

    Whatever, now can we get back to insulting each other,,, without prejudice of course...

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    Re: Illegal lettings

    Post by 3rdforum on Wed 26 Jul 2017 - 23:28

    You're a Muppet!






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    Re: Illegal lettings

    Post by Adam Mint on Wed 26 Jul 2017 - 23:30

    Which one ?
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    Re: Illegal lettings

    Post by Mcqueen on Thu 27 Jul 2017 - 8:07

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