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    Scottish Independence

    Post by 3rdforum on Tue 10 Jan 2012 - 22:50

    Well Cam, what way are you going to vote? If Cameron gets his way, it will happen this year.






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    Re: Scottish Independence

    Post by 3rdforum on Wed 11 Jan 2012 - 10:57

    Nobody took the bait eh??






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    Re: Scottish Independence

    Post by Gypsy on Wed 11 Jan 2012 - 13:01

    My Scottish friends are 110% AGAINST Independence, they like having the best of everything (their words not mine). They reckon they will be a lot worse of if they should be independent.
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    Re: Scottish Independence

    Post by Campbell Brodie on Wed 11 Jan 2012 - 17:50

    Sorry D. I was in bed last night when you asked. I don't honestly know which way I'll vote yet, but Alex Salmond will do it at a time that suits him, not David Cameron. It doesn't really matter anyway, Salmond will want the oil money and Westminster won't give it. Simples. That's actually what Cameron is afraid off. If Scotland did get independence, nearly all the oil and gas fields would be in Scottish territorial waters. That's why he wants the referendum now and not in 2014 when there will be a huge wave of Scottish patriotism because of the 700th anniversary of the Battle of Bannockburn.



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    Re: Scottish Independence

    Post by CaribeCelt on Wed 11 Jan 2012 - 19:21

    From what you can gather Cam,what way would a vote go?
    I Believe independence would'nt make a blind bit of difference to the working person to be honest,the rich and the powers that be will still exploit the poor.
    Just look at Ireland for christs sake,Independence my arse!
    It was on RTE news tonight that Capitol Hill was putting severe pressure on the Dail not to be to harsh on the bond holders.
    In this day of rampant capitalism independence only means the accent of the person robbing you will be the same as your own.
    A great Scots-Irish man born in Edinburgh once said:"Until you set about the establishment of a true Republic,which considers the well being of the worker paramount,then England will still rule you through her bankers,financiers and landlords".
    Although he wrote it over 100 years ago it still rings through to the present day.



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    Re: Scottish Independence

    Post by Campbell Brodie on Wed 11 Jan 2012 - 19:36

    I think I'll probably vote to stay in the Union, but that's because I'm frightened of the unknown. I don't like change, I'm a creature of habit and routine. I like to know what's happening and I've never liked feckin' surprises!



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    Re: Scottish Independence

    Post by 3rdforum on Wed 11 Jan 2012 - 21:05

    CaribeCelt wrote:From what you can gather Cam,what way would a vote go?
    I Believe independence would'nt make a blind bit of difference to the working person to be honest,the rich and the powers that be will still exploit the poor.
    Just look at Ireland for christs sake,Independence my arse!
    It was on RTE news tonight that Capitol Hill was putting severe pressure on the Dail not to be to harsh on the bond holders.
    In this day of rampant capitalism independence only means the accent of the person robbing you will be the same as your own.
    A great Scots-Irish man born in Edinburgh once said:"Until you set about the establishment of a true Republic,which considers the well being of the worker paramount,then England will still rule you through her bankers,financiers and landlords".
    Although he wrote it over 100 years ago it still rings through to the present day.

    Who was that , James Connolly??






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    Re: Scottish Independence

    Post by Topdog on Wed 11 Jan 2012 - 21:09

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    Re: Scottish Independence

    Post by CaribeCelt on Wed 11 Jan 2012 - 21:53

    3rdForum wrote:Who was that , James Connolly??

    Yes mate,the man himself.
    If only we had Labour people like him in Ireland and the UK today.



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    Re: Scottish Independence

    Post by Topdog on Wed 11 Jan 2012 - 21:57

    All of us are in the gutter but some of us are looking up at the stars-Oscar Wilde
    Some are looking up at their future partner.
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    Re: Scottish Independence

    Post by 3rdforum on Wed 11 Jan 2012 - 22:04

    Do Scottish people feel that they are equals in the Union because tbh, from an outsiders point of view, I've always thought of England as being the dominant partner.






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    Re: Scottish Independence

    Post by Adam Mint on Thu 12 Jan 2012 - 19:36

    What way will I vote ???

    Well it would be “no” if I was entitled to vote.

    Scottish/British, lived there most of my life but currently south of the border, therefore no vote for me, as in not entitled!!!

    If I had the right to vote, why “no”...

    One reason, Scottish Parliament, Welsh Assembly etc, expensive talking shops, guanos for want of a better word, the Westminster Parliament did let down the outer regions, but that should have been taken care of their without the need for sub division.

    The main reason for “no”, once voted SNP in my youth, the vote Salmond is looking for from the 16/17 year old “Bravehearts” he now wishes to recruit. Was at a fundraising folk night in aid of the SNP many years ago, at the table next to us was a young and upcoming member of the SNP party who went on to become a major figure within the organisation. I could not believe the conversation I was overhearing coming from the group at said table, they were discussing the use of terrorism to forward the cause as per the Irish situation which was still relevant at the time.

    Never voted SNP again.



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    Re: Scottish Independence

    Post by Perfectspecimen on Thu 12 Jan 2012 - 20:45

    You should fly that flag under your avatar then.



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    Re: Scottish Independence

    Post by Adam Mint on Fri 13 Jan 2012 - 3:51

    Perfectspecimen wrote:You should fly that flag under your avatar then.



    No, decided not to do that, prefer to remain inconspicuous, thought it may influence open discussion...











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    Re: Scottish Independence

    Post by cunningham on Fri 13 Jan 2012 - 20:22

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    if only the Asians would vote for indepence.
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    Post by cunningham on Fri 13 Jan 2012 - 20:26

    cunningham wrote:
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    if only the Asians would vote for independence.
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    Post by Perfectspecimen on Fri 13 Jan 2012 - 23:02

    Hmmmm...Youre a quiet one then A..



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    Re: Scottish Independence

    Post by Adam Mint on Sat 14 Jan 2012 - 5:43

    No, but...



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    Re: Scottish Independence

    Post by Adam Mint on Sat 14 Jan 2012 - 18:17

    Adam Mint wrote:No, but...



    Never go to war unless you have the ammunition to win.....






    Just noticed I failed to copy over last line of above post, should have read:-



    Never go to war unless you have the ammunition to win.....




    Does Salmond actually think he can win ! Does he want to !!! Or is he just appeasing his following by carrying through what he said he would do.....
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    Re: Scottish Independence

    Post by Campbell Brodie on Fri 20 Jan 2012 - 18:13

    He's not everyone's cup of tea but he can be quite funny. Alex Salmond referring to the Conservatives recently said " There are more pandas in Scotland than Tory MPs!"
    Haha! Ping Pong and Wigwam have out-numbered the tories!



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    Re: Scottish Independence

    Post by Adam Mint on Mon 15 Oct 2012 - 16:22

    Yes or No, the vote Salmond wanted ??? He’ll sleep tonight...


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    Re: Scottish Independence

    Post by 3rdforum on Mon 15 Oct 2012 - 18:09

    Minty, thats a link to a Frankie Boyle story. Do I take it that a date has been announced??






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    Re: Scottish Independence

    Post by Adam Mint on Mon 15 Oct 2012 - 18:14

    Shit whats on the Frankie Boyle post, oh well much the same I suppose...



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    Re: Scottish Independence

    Post by 3rdforum on Mon 15 Oct 2012 - 18:15

    Ye can still rise now, and be that nation again!!






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    Re: Scottish Independence

    Post by Campbell Brodie on Mon 15 Oct 2012 - 18:44

    3rdforum wrote:Minty, thats a link to a Frankie Boyle story. Do I take it that a date has been announced??

    Adam Mint wrote:Shit whats on the Frankie Boyle post, oh well much the same I suppose...

    Fixed it!



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